From: Badger_South
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Dream Trainer?
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 00:19:52 -0400
Message-ID: sqb951lncu6u35b8uajdj9p88kknnbchnc@4ax.com

On 6 Apr 2005 20:29:40 -0700, "Ray" <ray_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Badger_South wrote:
>> defense to cover for the liver shot that you see one guy using in the
>> intro, but Rodney doesn't have time cover it on the DVD itself.
>
>Oh is there? Gotta see that--I'll examine the DVD again tonight. You're
>right, in the DVD I remember he taught how to CM-away bodyshots with
>the lead elbow, but no section on the liver shot defense. Thanks, will
>pay attention to the intro now :)

OK, I misspoke. It's a very short sequence at 2:16 from the beginning of
his "SBG vol. 2 - Power Offense & Kicking for NHB" vid.

You just use your elbows in an active CM mode and keep squared up and
tucked you're not open as much. Notice when he does catch people he gets
them oscillating and they lose the square and the posture and the tuck and
he strikes! <g>

If you like I can snip it and give you a link. Sorry.

>I've been trying to apply CM to Kyokushin sparring, but a bit difficult
>because no punch to the face--this restriction kinda makes the game
>different. You see people sparring with upright posture and hands down
>many times. I wonder if Kyokushin way and focus of conditioning the
>body would help against the liver shot though.

I think you could very easily adapt CM to Kk sparring.

If the liver shot is applied properly nobody can resist it. Remember
Bernard Hopkins dropped Oscar with a wicked liver shot in their last fight
last Sept (9/18/04). DelaHoya is superbly conditioned and said he tried to
resist the effects and thought he had it but it just was too much, iirc, in
the post fight interview. I think the CM structure can allow you to see
others' out of position more easily and then you see openings that one
normally isn't aware of.

>
>> mat and goes over circling the tennis ball by turning in the foot,
>> squaring up the hips and not crossing the feet.
>
>Yes, I find this very good too. But there is something I don't get--if
>you square your hip, doesn't that expose more of your body to your
>opponent?

Gotta keep that CM tuck... He emphases it in the beginning. His mobility is
also excellent and he teaches it well. So no, you're always moving and your
foot work is usually too good for the average guy who hasn't trained CM to
catch. You gotta keep watching the tape after each workout at first, and
you pick up more and more. Watch yourself in the mirror and be sure you
have the right posture as you punch. Get some 10oz gloves like they use,
too so you can get used to the covering up and stuff and seeing around
them, etc.

>> It works really well, I've been doing it and it's greatly helped my
>> shadow boxing.
>
>And I love the way he explained the correct mechanics of a punch in
>Sparring 101!

The mechanics of his way of punching, from the top of the head, is
well-incorporated into his style and it all fits together so well, imo,
that you get immediate improvement of your game. 

Again sorry about my mis-attribution.

-B

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